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"A flash of lightning tore through the tumult, illuminating the grizzled Elemenstor and his ambulatory dresser." --Book 1, officially the first line of The Elemenstor Cycle

 

All the disparate elements of ELotH:TES together in one place. Fans here discuss the only modern fantasy offering that can truly be described as Epic. Also we're quite fond of hats. If you're new to The Elemenstor Saga, please visit the introductory page for new users for general information. The Etiquette Guide may also be of use. Then be sure to make your way over to the Featured Articles.

 

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Comments (351)

Anonymous said

at 9:15 am on Dec 8, 2005

first post testing discussions for elothtes.

Anonymous said

at 9:16 am on Dec 8, 2005

a second post, confirming that this actually works. yay, and enjoy!

Anonymous said

at 6:57 am on Dec 10, 2005

Ha! Ha!
I'm discussing the FrontPage!

Anonymous said

at 7:00 am on Dec 10, 2005

Hmm. So now the question. What is this discussion best used for? And now I understand--leaving OOC comments. What opinions have we on this proposal? Is anyone even aware these exist?

Anonymous said

at 7:03 pm on Dec 10, 2005

I was aware. I was hoping we could use the Discussion page in place of all those little comments that adorn the bottoms of unfinished pages and what not, but I suppose OOC discussion isn't a bad idea either. Especially as we can't edit our Discussion messages should "canon" change later.

Anonymous said

at 8:40 pm on Dec 10, 2005

You can't edit your messages because we can't be sure who you are - there's no individual logins on pbwiki, only class logins (Reader/Contributor/Mod/Admin). I'm planning to put in the ability to delete or at least hide comments, and let Mods and Admins toggle between those states. The whole discussion thing is a bit of an experiment now but will remain as at least the level of functionality here. Probably more elaborate as time goes on but it's a start, right? -nathan/pbwiki

Anonymous said

at 10:21 pm on Dec 10, 2005

This is very nice. I agree with keeping it all OOC; in fact, since this is set apart, it's the only good place for OOC.

Anonymous said

at 11:48 pm on Dec 10, 2005

Crimethinkers :P

Anonymous said

at 2:15 am on Dec 11, 2005

Woo! Fun stuff. A very useful separation. Thanks, PBWiki fellows.

Anonymous said

at 2:13 pm on Dec 11, 2005

This discussion page >>>>>>>>>> Scrambled Discussion.

Anonymous said

at 12:08 am on Dec 12, 2005

You know what I'd like to see? A science fiction version of ELotH:TES. Just putting that out there in case people are interested. I'm much more into sci-fi than fantasy.

Anonymous said

at 1:18 am on Dec 12, 2005

Well, you could create your own pbwiki. It *is* free.

Anonymous said

at 1:25 am on Dec 12, 2005

SamSim -- That would be fun... Hrmmmm.

Anonymous said

at 1:48 am on Dec 12, 2005

I lack the technical ability, sadly.

Anonymous said

at 1:51 am on Dec 12, 2005

You don't need technical ability. Just go to http://www.pbwiki.com, type in a name for your wiki and email address, and they'll send you a password. It'll be set up more or less like this one from the get-go. You just need to fill in the content. The pbwiki guys will do the technical stuff.

Anonymous said

at 2:12 am on Dec 12, 2005

One piece of advice, SamSim; don't jump right into it. I think a lot of the success of this wiki is that the main points were fleshed out by Tycho and the crew, and contributors have even more to draw on with all the Penny Arcade stuff. If you just set it up with the vague instructions of 'Sci-Fi' wiki, it will probably end up pretty convulted. Take a few days and figure out what the main points of the Sci-Fi series are going to be before you do it, and it'll probably turn out better for it.

Anonymous said

at 7:10 am on Dec 12, 2005

Charmy, I took your advice to heart and made http://chromegarden.pbwiki.com/

A story and a timeline exists...

Anonymous said

at 10:17 am on Dec 12, 2005

Ye lacks thee olde password, kindler.

Anonymous said

at 12:01 pm on Dec 12, 2005

ottochromo

Anonymous said

at 3:33 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Ah, I'm be startering to rea dthe tale.

Anonymous said

at 4:21 pm on Dec 12, 2005

I had an idea for the front page, Natural Hazards/ Diseases of battal. Is that good? If it isn't i'll jump. Seriously, i'll do it.

Anonymous said

at 4:30 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Speaking of making other wikis, I just wanted to point out "Lexicon", in case you haven't heard of it. A few years ago, someone thought up an interesting idea for a game to play on a wiki. I think you'll find the concept familiar, though more structured than what we're doing here. http://www.20by20room.com/2003/11/lexicon_an_rpg.html I imagine if a group of us wanted to get together to start such a game on a new topic, there might be many interested participants (assuming the topic was agreeable).

Anonymous said

at 5:50 pm on Dec 12, 2005

That's pretty neat accually, but wouldn't that require massive amounts of crimethinking? Crimethinker. Anyway, if other people want ot try it out, I suggest we get a seperate wiki, so that other people can't interfere and if it's a sucess, we post it here. I suggest maybe expanding on one of the existing articles yet either large or obviously destined to become large, like the P&PRPG or the book of laws.

Anonymous said

at 6:58 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Samsim and R. Smith, check out http://chromegarden.pbwiki.com
It's got pretty big timeline so all sorts of technology levels could exist.. still lots of unanswered questions, so plenty to fill in.
-Tim

Anonymous said

at 7:00 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Rhok Wagley: Go ahead and do it. Sounds promising.

Anonymous said

at 7:10 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Tanktunker - I definitely wasn't thinking of doing it on this wiki. Besides, it's a game about writing fiction whereas what we're documenting is real. I just thought it had a similar flavor and that contributors here might like it. Here's a list of some example Lexicons people have done: http://gamegrene.com/wiki/Lexicon_games

Anonymous said

at 7:24 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Sandormar: The discussion section is OOC. Crimethink's allowed here.

Anonymous said

at 8:48 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Ifyoudon'tmind, I'm adding an "Ailments of Battal" link in the front page.

Anonymous said

at 9:31 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Seems like the frontpage is getting a little out of hand.. I'm going to pare down the Wizbits links since they are mildly redundant

Anonymous said

at 9:35 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Hmm, who else thinks that changing the main page into an index index, with the "Items" link linking to "Weapons" and "Armors and Shields" etc?

Anonymous said

at 9:41 pm on Dec 12, 2005

I think it's fine the way it is, but I could see the value of doing it that way. Any more discussion, or should we just start the task now?

Anonymous said

at 9:43 pm on Dec 12, 2005

how about somebody tries it and decides if it looks friendly...

Anonymous said

at 9:45 pm on Dec 12, 2005

M'kay.

Anonymous said

at 9:51 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Nah, doesn't look nice, I reverted it.

Anonymous said

at 10:11 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Ooh-er. That sci-fi thing sprung up rather faster than I imagined. I was hoping to spend a few days figuring out a direction for it before leaping into a thousand-year timeline.

Anonymous said

at 10:25 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Orange!

Anonymous said

at 10:49 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Grrr-een.

Anonymous said

at 10:56 pm on Dec 12, 2005

African American!

Anonymous said

at 11:03 pm on Dec 12, 2005

Any reason the BG to the t-shirts box was black?

Anonymous said

at 1:32 am on Dec 13, 2005

African American.

Anonymous said

at 1:58 am on Dec 13, 2005

Okay, I'm missing something here. Oh, God, please help me!

Anonymous said

at 2:46 am on Dec 13, 2005

African American!

Anonymous said

at 4:58 am on Dec 13, 2005

Someone changed the T-Shirt announcement to orange because it was cool. I guess someone made it green, then black. Now it;s back to normal.

Anonymous said

at 5:08 am on Dec 13, 2005

I woulda liked to see it in orange... hrmmm.

Anonymous said

at 5:13 am on Dec 13, 2005

I think it looks fabulous.

Anonymous said

at 5:24 am on Dec 13, 2005

Spectacular, even.

Anonymous said

at 5:45 am on Dec 13, 2005

pink! pink is my favorite color. *_*

Anonymous said

at 5:51 am on Dec 13, 2005

Ah, a beautiful pink.

Anonymous said

at 5:53 am on Dec 13, 2005

If purple is a close second, Dryope, check out the shirt auction. ;)

Anonymous said

at 9:38 am on Dec 13, 2005

Barely Readable!

Anonymous said

at 12:58 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Why is there a Japanese FrontPage?

Anonymous said

at 2:49 pm on Dec 13, 2005

So that people that read only japanese and somehow maneuvered their way here have something to read.

Anonymous said

at 7:38 pm on Dec 13, 2005

It's like what Wikipedia's got.

Anonymous said

at 7:40 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Anyone think it's a good idea to move the logo from the Elemenstor's intro page to the main page?

Anonymous said

at 8:24 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Well, there it is. Not sure if I like it.

Anonymous said

at 8:27 pm on Dec 13, 2005

I like it there. Good to have an "official" page for disputes and suchlike. Plus, it lets us use the "discussion" pages for humerous in-character discussion (for example, I think the Drinking and Pill Binge page looked better with a twisted discussion related to the veracity of the binge).

Anonymous said

at 8:34 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Ooh! Nice header.

Anonymous said

at 9:00 pm on Dec 13, 2005

If I do say so myself, I really like this arrangement of "Epic Legends of the Hierarchs" in terms of use as part of the brand identity..

Anonymous said

at 9:09 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Well, so then I guess we'll keep it.

Anonymous said

at 9:42 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Am I the only one who gets "Both versions are identical!" on any diff, no matter what?

Anonymous said

at 9:51 pm on Dec 13, 2005

No, everyone does. That feature is down.

Anonymous said

at 10:01 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Okay, Tanktunker, it's been 30 minutes. I am now going to steal your edit lock. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience I may be causing you if you are actually still editing the frontpage.

Anonymous said

at 10:23 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Diff support is mildly borked. I'm fixing it. Apologies.

Anonymous said

at 11:07 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Mildly? More like completely. It's cool though; you can still manually check out the pages.

Anonymous said

at 11:31 pm on Dec 13, 2005

Re David: Thanks :)

Anonymous said

at 12:18 am on Dec 14, 2005

I had realized that you can just take the s off the front of the diff url and get the old client side diff, so had been doing so.

Anonymous said

at 7:47 am on Dec 14, 2005

Ok, so now the cancel button is bork too? Or is it just my borken browser, borken computer or borken internet?

Anonymous said

at 11:37 am on Dec 14, 2005

Diff support is fixed now. Sorry. I suck.

Anonymous said

at 12:01 pm on Dec 14, 2005

No, you rAwk, with a capital a.

Anonymous said

at 7:00 pm on Dec 14, 2005

Of course the javascript diff is still infinitely more informative...

Anonymous said

at 7:13 pm on Dec 14, 2005

Guess I'll stick with the Javascript then.

Anonymous said

at 10:02 pm on Dec 14, 2005

It would be really just exceedingly helpful to know what you like more about one than the other - you prefer the word-based versus line-based diffs?

Anonymous said

at 12:45 am on Dec 15, 2005

yeah... most of the edits here are only of a few characters on a page, so since the whole thing gets struck through it's a little hard to diff..
It's especially hard with this wiki since people tend not to insert a lot of carriage returns, so a "line" ends up being a paragraph.
diffing for instance the front page when the color of the box changes, it's pretty hard to tell what is different at a glance.

Anonymous said

at 1:16 am on Dec 15, 2005

Ok, we'll work on improving our server diff support. :)

Anonymous said

at 7:05 pm on Dec 15, 2005

Everything's bigger! On this page, I mean. The text.

Anonymous said

at 2:04 am on Dec 16, 2005

What I really want is the ability to highlight a sentence, click a button, and be told who added it. But I can see how that would be really complicated on the back end.

Anonymous said

at 2:38 am on Dec 16, 2005

Yeah, freaking tough. Imagine if like 4 people changed parts of the sentence. Jeez that would get weird.

Really cool though. Maybe in 4 years.

Anonymous said

at 2:48 am on Dec 16, 2005

Ack, everything is large.

Anonymous said

at 10:34 am on Dec 16, 2005

Sorry about the large, looking into it.

Anonymous said

at 7:14 pm on Dec 16, 2005

It looks nice actually, IMHO.

Anonymous said

at 8:57 pm on Dec 16, 2005

How do you ban someone? Some guy just stupidified the front page and I had to revert it. Tanktunkert or something his nick was.

Anonymous said

at 9:36 pm on Dec 16, 2005

is it possible to have a set of links on the front page for 'most viewed' pages?

Anonymous said

at 10:18 pm on Dec 16, 2005

I mentioned on the [To-Do] page a couple days ago that I think the frontpage needs a major revision to reduce clutter and make navigation easier. This would involve cutting down the number of header bars (currently there are EIGHT!), reducing the number of specific links from the frontpage and instead including "topic links" (i.e. the Items link would stay, but the individual "famous hats" etc. links would only be visible from the Items page; and like that for all the other categories, too), and possibly trying a Wikipedia-style Featured Page or Recently Added pages. Anybody have any comments/suggestions about that? I don't want to unilaterally redesign the whole thing...

Anonymous said

at 10:29 pm on Dec 16, 2005

I think that is a lovely idea, Toshi. ^_^ I say do it!

Anonymous said

at 10:30 pm on Dec 16, 2005

That would be very nice. I am, however, unable to do that. That takes like, skill and stuff. I just know how to write words; anything beyond a simple table escapes me. Get someone else to do it :D

Anonymous said

at 11:38 pm on Dec 16, 2005

Just formatting and organizing? Ok. But I would ask that we make this all on a separate page, give the community a chance to voice protest -- and if it passes inspection, we put it up.

Anonymous said

at 12:31 am on Dec 17, 2005

I agree with the idea of uncluttering the main page.

Anonymous said

at 8:08 am on Dec 17, 2005

Oi, what's up with Tanktunker? He's spamming the main page.

Anonymous said

at 11:08 am on Dec 17, 2005

I'm flattered, I have an impersonator, a stupid, vandal one, but still an impersonator. No, I didn't change the front page to the hoax thing.

Anonymous said

at 4:20 am on Dec 18, 2005

The price of being a well-known contributor, I guess. I know you wouldn't do stuff like that, Tank. These vandals will stoop to anything, won't they?

Anonymous said

at 1:27 am on Dec 19, 2005

I just have a question- how do you add the sidebar?

Anonymous said

at 1:34 am on Dec 19, 2005

to a wiki? just make a page named SideBar.

Anonymous said

at 1:36 am on Dec 19, 2005

I kept making things like sidebar and Sidebar, no wonder!

Anonymous said

at 8:05 am on Dec 21, 2005

All right all, take a look at [TestFrontPage]. The header links have not been made, obviously, and those that do work don't go to pages that have been updated to reflect their new function- so please IGNORE LINKS. Basically, every link currently on the frontpage that is not on the TestFrontPage would be relocated to a "sub-hub" page (or more than one, no reason to avoid redundancy) where common sense dictates you would look for it. Each of these sub-hubs could have a paragraph of introductory text about the topic, then a list of relevant topic links like are in the current frontpage, though perhaps more detailed. I re-organized the categories to be less redundant, too. Thoughts?

Anonymous said

at 8:43 am on Dec 21, 2005

I like the idea, but it really doesnt cut down on the bulk much-it has about the same number of links (very loose approximation), and spreads things out even further.

Anonymous said

at 8:47 pm on Dec 21, 2005

Yeah, it's still really freaking linky. Do we even need all the sub-headings under the main ones? We'd be much cleaner and iPod-ish without them. By iPod, I mean sleek and sophisticated, not white and shiny.

Anonymous said

at 9:12 pm on Dec 21, 2005

I disagree -- I find the test front page is a bit smaller, and what links it has seem to be better organized. It uses more horizontal and less vertical space, and I find that broader shape more appealing to the eye. Plus, there aren't like nine tiny one-line/box announcements floating around it. I don't see a problem with the front page having a fair number of links, if it's easy to skim -- newcomers could see, at a glance, what sorts of topics exist and what they can jump to with a click.

Anonymous said

at 10:36 pm on Dec 21, 2005

Does it work with the SideBar?

Anonymous said

at 11:26 pm on Dec 21, 2005

TychoC:It certainly does work with the SideBar! In fact you can't apparently make a page without the SideBar once there is a SideBar, so the SideBar is on the TestFrontPage now... I considered leaving out the lists under each sub-hub link, but I wanted to give examples of what sort of things are on each sub-hub.
Anywho- It does still have a lot of links, but I cut them about in half, which says a lot about the current state of the FrontPage. RSmith has discovered my secret plan entirely ^_^.

Anonymous said

at 8:29 pm on Jan 2, 2006

seems like the new "recent changes" aren't actually showing all the changes... like my chance to the source code for the broken link generator... also.. what's up with the strikethrough on the mo-pi change?

Anonymous said

at 8:46 pm on Jan 2, 2006

I don't think their algorithm for picking out the changes to the page likes it when you make sweeping changes to a large paragraph of text so it gets confuses and strikes the whole block out, even if you've just made several cuts and stitches like I did on on the mo-pi page. The new "recent changes" has a bug with the DHTML code too... if you expand the last at the bottom of the page and scroll down past the changes for that entry, you'll see all the other changes that happened before it -- somehow certain snippets of changes to page cause the rest of the changes to get rolled up under the "+" sign for that entry. Your change to the source code page is on there, just hidden... which is a bit weird certainly.

Anonymous said

at 10:10 am on Jan 3, 2006

Erm... Could you people stop changing spelling mistakes in the comments in the articles? It would be more 'realistic' this way.

Anonymous said

at 12:22 pm on Jan 3, 2006

Hm, sorry for the bugs with Changes. I'm going to be working on it some more this week! And don't forget, RecentChanges is still around. :)

Anonymous said

at 2:26 am on Jan 4, 2006

It'd be cool if there were something like the RecentChanges page that only showed the last 2 days or so.. it would load quickly, but not be destroyed by the kind of thing I just did (edit the frontpage 20 times and blow away most of the entries on the changes.php page)

Anonymous said

at 9:30 am on Jan 4, 2006

Yeah, I was trying to articulate something like that on the Comments page here... that would be really useful. I like the idea of the "+" part but the format of the entries of RecentChanges is better. A combination of both would be the coolest I think.

Anonymous said

at 9:32 am on Jan 4, 2006

Oh yeah and the new front page is **tight**. Also sorry I haven't contributed in the last couple of days... it's like this when I'm at work, but I'll certainly do stuff at the weekend if I don't add anything during the week. ;)

Anonymous said

at 1:35 pm on Jan 4, 2006

And I've been sick as a dog. Anything I write would probably be half-coherent ranting.

Anonymous said

at 6:40 pm on Jan 4, 2006

Hope you feel better TC, although half-coherent ranting would blend right in here.

Anonymous said

at 8:08 pm on Jan 4, 2006

Whoa - the new recent changes system is incredisexy. I love just the simple "click plus" to see the change, even comment!

Anonymous said

at 6:27 pm on Jan 5, 2006

moved the new list of board games into Merchandise and Collectibles because there was already a board games section there

Anonymous said

at 9:46 pm on Jan 5, 2006

Oh poo. I must have missed it. Sorry.

Anonymous said

at 11:19 pm on Jan 5, 2006

Yes, I actually say things like 'poo'.

Anonymous said

at 12:23 am on Jan 6, 2006

I think we should whip up some javascript for the front page that picks a random quote and an object that we are particularly fond of.

Anonymous said

at 12:28 am on Jan 6, 2006

That would be awesome... possibly even "teh" awesome. If I was a younger man, I'd probably know a word ending in "-z0r" that could convey this feeling properly.

Anonymous said

at 12:41 am on Jan 6, 2006

Sounds great. I can't wait for it to say that we are fond of swords.

Anonymous said

at 4:29 am on Jan 6, 2006

My experience with Javascript consists of acting like I know what it is, but could we make it so we could like, tag particlar lines that would then be randomly shown on the front page?

Anonymous said

at 6:10 am on Jan 6, 2006

I'd like a random quote and object, but at the same time, I don't think any would capture ELotH:TES as well as Tell me more... does.

Anonymous said

at 7:35 pm on Jan 7, 2006

I agree with TychoC here. I mean, ther are lots of great ELotH:TES quotes out there, but how can you top "the furniture and the glory"? I always thought that line just summed up the entire wiki...

Anonymous said

at 7:41 pm on Jan 7, 2006

*there. Damn keyboard, messing with my mind...

Anonymous said

at 9:10 pm on Jan 7, 2006

Actually patkelly said that. I think there are lots of quotes that can sum it up. Like the one we have now: "Wait a second... Reyarteb... Reyarteb... Has anybody noticed that's Betrayer spelled backwards??"

Anonymous said

at 5:30 am on Jan 8, 2006

I'm quite fond of the revelatory "Reyarteb" quote myself, but a random quote-generator would be a nice touch! Could one of you talented wikimenstors mayhap have it select the choicer samples of the quotes page? Anything from Char's lips is epic literary gold, although Harbinger Portent and Lord Kinlo shined on occasion...

Anonymous said

at 7:26 am on Jan 9, 2006

are there really any good harbinger portent quotes?

Anonymous said

at 2:15 pm on Jan 10, 2006

Sure! Remember when that guy told him those things, and harbringer answered:
"I'll put this into your soup.", and smacked him with his elemenstave?

Anonymous said

at 8:08 am on Jan 13, 2006

Updated the Show/Hide SideBar code - Works in IE6 and Firefox 1.5 now, for me at least. I could add browser detect if people are using an IE ver < 6, but really people. ;)

Anonymous said

at 6:05 pm on Jan 13, 2006

Woot works for me too. That's neat.

Anonymous said

at 5:11 am on Jan 14, 2006

Someone messed with the page again. I don’t recall the changes that were made since the backup, so I just copied and pasted it hoping someone who remembered could fix it.

Anonymous said

at 9:38 pm on Jan 14, 2006

Some PACT member put a "ELotH:TES IS A HOAX" message in the Frontpage and an ugly guy pic. Fixed it.

Anonymous said

at 8:17 am on Jan 16, 2006

We were struck again. Repair't.

Anonymous said

at 4:18 pm on Jan 16, 2006

Do you think that I could put advertisement for new charity action: www.buymesomeram.com ? It helps fans of ELotH:tES. Namely, me.

Anonymous said

at 1:31 pm on Jan 26, 2006

Isn't it neat that pbwiki actually uses elothtes to advertise? We're an actual online novel, comparable to some vampire shit! http://pbwiki.com/tour/4.html

:D

Anonymous said

at 6:26 pm on Jan 26, 2006

Yeah, right up there with Susan Dennis' shopping list. We've hit the big time. I volunteer to do the 60 Minutes interview.

Anonymous said

at 5:42 pm on Feb 2, 2006

Yep, pretty neat.

Anonymous said

at 7:22 pm on Feb 24, 2006

I may safely say that Broken Link day... turned out nice again.

Anonymous said

at 7:29 pm on Mar 14, 2006

Scroll down to the "R's" on this page to find a reference to ELotH. Maybe we should start finding these external refrences and cataloging them here, too.
http://www.gwonline.net/characters/names/malemelee.php?query=&page=50&limit=50

Anonymous said

at 7:41 pm on Mar 14, 2006

cool.. make a page for it.. start with this, the wired article, and the wikipedia entry

Anonymous said

at 5:26 am on Mar 20, 2006

I had this card game idea, but I am not sure where to put it.
Can anyone help?

Anonymous said

at 7:33 am on Mar 21, 2006

Fix'd the front page.

Anonymous said

at 4:01 pm on Mar 22, 2006

Elemenstormers are going to be online again. The dudes tell me, that the old adress won't be used, and it will take some time to get the site running...
The forums will be up soon - most of the information is lost, though.

Anonymous said

at 5:44 pm on Mar 23, 2006

Anonymous said

at 4:05 pm on Apr 3, 2006

awesome

Anonymous said

at 2:10 am on Apr 7, 2006

Umm... Not sure where else to mention this-- But one of the fan-art pictures has been repalced, recently, with a picture of a chick in lingerie-- It looks like this is the third re-reversion of the file, so I though it would bear mention.

Anonymous said

at 3:03 am on Apr 7, 2006

Who the heck is Ivana Stefarina, and why has the world of actual hot chicks cataclysmically met with the world of fictional hot chicks? I don't think the picture is supposed to be there, it looks perhaps just a tad bit off-kilter for a site about ELotH:TES. (I beleive it might be the same pic Ariamakai is talking about)

Anonymous said

at 6:07 am on Apr 7, 2006

No, no, she is a friend of mine. ^_^; I thought the pic looked Stefarina-ish and asked if it was okay to put it up and she said that was cool by her

Anonymous said

at 10:49 am on Apr 7, 2006

Your friend is incredibly hot.

'Nuff said.

Anonymous said

at 5:06 pm on Apr 7, 2006

She is a ballet major, that is why she is in such good shape. :) She is also very moody, which tends to keep the boy-types at bay.

Anonymous said

at 10:10 pm on Apr 7, 2006

If moodyness kept men away from women the species would be extinct.

Anonymous said

at 10:10 pm on May 5, 2006

Holy Crap, Guys and Gals! It's been over half year! I just want to say that I had actually great time working with you!

Anonymous said

at 7:39 pm on May 12, 2006

I'm writing the books. Yes, this is crimethinking. Please help me on http://epicnovels.pbwiki.com by listing AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE what is mentioned in the first book.

Anonymous said

at 4:05 pm on May 15, 2006

What, you mean like, *rewriting* them?

Anonymous said

at 9:31 pm on May 19, 2006

Oh, nice one Johan... or should I say... L. H. FRANZIBALD! It is SICKENING to me as a fan that you have taken our wiki and twisted it into a tool for looting the intellectual property of a superior mind... I hope you CHOKE ON YOUR LIES!

Anonymous said

at 4:11 pm on May 20, 2006

<crimethink>The books are fake. They do not exist. Tycho and Gabe (PA Tycho and Gabe, not Writer-Tycho and Stalker-Gabe) have admitted to it being a hoax. I'd like the books not to be fake. Besides, I need the writing practice. </crimethink>

Anonymous said

at 7:37 pm on May 20, 2006

Hoi!

Sorry I been gone so long, but I'm back.

And with a vengance.

Anonymous said

at 7:51 pm on May 20, 2006

If we're descending into crimethink, I have to say I think the whole thing is a lot more fun if the books don't actually exist. The idea of a fully-developed fandom with books that are only glimpsed through random quotes and references is more entertaining than if there were actual books written.

Anonymous said

at 9:55 pm on May 20, 2006

In fact, I'll go farther -- if the books (or cartoon series or games or whatever) actually existed, people wouldn't be able to invent quotes and references, which would take away the whole point.

Anonymous said

at 10:57 pm on May 20, 2006

Concurance met. 'Tis better to let it be a mystery, that we may never have an end to the craziness.

Plus, this being a wiki, even the oldest facts aren't immune to updates 'n new ideas. The less permanent soil we have, the more we can mess with.

Anonymous said

at 11:28 pm on May 20, 2006

certainly there is presidence of fan works that "re-imagine" the books though, so as an effort to do that, I certainly commend it...

Anonymous said

at 11:29 pm on May 20, 2006

additionally, welcome back Jute Mill!

Anonymous said

at 7:59 am on May 21, 2006

yeah... brownie...

Anonymous said

at 8:52 am on May 21, 2006

Uhm, shall I just write some fiction about War Men and their underground tunnels, then?

Anonymous said

at 1:04 am on May 23, 2006

An intresting series I have yet to read.

Anonymous said

at 10:59 pm on May 23, 2006

Okay... I changed the quote so it's centered when the sidebar is visible, but now it's not centered when you hide the sidebar. Personally I never hide the sidebar, so I think this way looks better... but I don't know why it was changed in the first place, so somebody feel free to let me know.

Anonymous said

at 1:44 pm on May 24, 2006

Why can't I see those Song of Sorcelator comics?

Anonymous said

at 12:04 am on May 26, 2006

Seriously, WTF is with changing the quote with other mathematician's names? Do we need to lock the Front Page?

Anonymous said

at 12:22 am on May 26, 2006

Might I suggest a firm 'yes' to that?

Anonymous said

at 12:31 am on May 26, 2006

could lock it.. but I've heard the argument that if you give them something easy to vandelize (and easy to fix) it stops them from going after other things that are more of a pain to find/fix

Anonymous said

at 1:14 am on May 26, 2006

HELP! I commented "The imitator will cease to speak now. Cease!" on the TSOTS wiki, and they turned it around on us!
There must be a way...and that way is..ALL OUT WAR.

Anonymous said

at 8:58 pm on May 26, 2006

....I just want to burn TSOTS the FUCK DOWN.

Anonymous said

at 9:49 pm on May 26, 2006

My Ronard! Does anyone heard what has happened on Readiation?! Apparently, there's been some bloodshed. And I don't mean the regular convention 'where the fuck are my dice' bloodshed, but some serious shit! Who was supposed to go there? What the fuck is going on?!!!!!one!!!111!!!eleven???

Anonymous said

at 9:53 pm on May 26, 2006

Apparently some Sorcelator bitch got himself shot at. Not at all unexpected, if you ask me.

Anonymous said

at 10:16 pm on May 26, 2006

Yea for the righteous nightstand.

Anonymous said

at 10:49 pm on May 26, 2006

There are rumors that Tycho Brahe's companion Gabe lept in front of the bullet at the last second, but nothing can be confirmed yet. It's CHAOS right now!

Anonymous said

at 11:06 pm on May 26, 2006

I heard Gabe only accidentally lept in front of the bullet, when he was in fact trying to save the Fruit Fucker that was toppling off its display platform. God knows what that thing was doing at Readiation.

Anonymous said

at 11:33 pm on May 26, 2006

I have heard the worst. That the End Times are upon us. That the world itself shall spindle and mutilate into nonexistence.

If this is so, let me just say this:

Fgsfds.

Anonymous said

at 8:22 pm on May 29, 2006

We're getting a lot of vandalism lately. Not like the Bad Old Days, but still enough to cause annoyance.

Anonymous said

at 3:43 am on May 30, 2006

Anyone else notice that we're only 83 entries away from hitting the 5000 page mark?

Anonymous said

at 9:15 pm on May 30, 2006

Anyone else figure out that L.H. Franzibald is in fact Gabe?
Seems pretty obvious.

Johan said

at 7:59 pm on May 31, 2006

Dude. No fudging way.

TychoCelchuuu said

at 10:06 pm on May 31, 2006

I think Gabe took a bullet for Franzibald. So it's unlikely they're the same person.

Anonymous said

at 12:21 am on Jun 1, 2006

Oooh . . . new comment template.

And what if the "L H Franzibald" that showed up at Readiation was really a fake, and the shooter knew that, and shot Gabe because he knew what he was?

Anonymous said

at 2:03 am on Jun 1, 2006

How do I shot we.... Get that little sidebar thing/

Anonymous said

at 2:04 am on Jun 1, 2006

Alongside my comments, that is.

Anonymous said

at 2:04 am on Jun 1, 2006

Ohhh, I see. Neat.

Luggage said

at 1:52 pm on Jun 1, 2006

Neat.

K said

at 6:29 pm on Jun 1, 2006

This is a pretty cool addition to the Wiki.

Tim said

at 8:05 pm on Jun 7, 2006

(actually that was 4989) :)

Johan said

at 8:11 pm on Jun 7, 2006

Oh, lol, my bad.

K said

at 9:45 pm on Jun 7, 2006

Whatever happened to the mindless automaton?

Tim said

at 9:51 pm on Jun 7, 2006

that script broke when they changed the login script. I'll have to give Charlie a nudge to get him to fix it.

K said

at 10:44 pm on Jun 8, 2006

Alright, this cannot be borne. Forwarding our frontpage to Song of the Sorcelator's wiki? Sabotage most foul!

Anonymous said

at 11:43 pm on Jun 8, 2006

There's not a page-counter anywhere to keep track of our post-5000 adventures, is there?

Tim said

at 1:26 am on Jun 9, 2006

if you click on "all pages" it tells you how many pages we've got, if that's what you're looking for.

Montykins said

at 4:00 am on Jun 9, 2006

I believe the 5000th page was . . . Kittens. Yay! Kittens!

Anonymous said

at 8:54 am on Jun 9, 2006

'tis, yeah. Danke.

Tim said

at 6:14 pm on Jun 9, 2006

the "science" page and the "forms of government" page don't seem to be indexes like the rest... and I'm not sure that they're even depict realistic comprehensive analysis of other content that appears on this wiki..
somebody want to adopt these? probably links like this shouldn't really be on the front page since they're not really category or introduction pages

Tim said

at 6:49 pm on Jun 9, 2006

what does anybody think about http://elothtes.elwiki.com ?

Jake said

at 7:08 pm on Jun 9, 2006

It's more legible - but switching the system would be a quilp in the ass.

Tim said

at 7:11 pm on Jun 9, 2006

I think that a switch could be easily arranged.. but only if it were desirable.

K said

at 8:00 pm on Jun 9, 2006

Well, there's a lot of formatting and such on this site... I think we'd need a pretty compelling reason to switch. pbwiki seems to be doing just fine.

Anonymous said

at 8:46 pm on Jun 9, 2006

Why was the list of spells taken off the front page? I know they aren't as cool as gears, but they do play an important role in Battal - even the Elemenstors use them a lot. Now they're just sort of buried at the bottom of the list of gears...

Tim said

at 8:56 pm on Jun 9, 2006

spells are mainly used in the rpg and never by elemenstors (unless you can find some exceptions) I don't think they really are a big part of the fiction. that's why I swapped where the gears were listed and where the spells were listed.

Tim said

at 8:58 pm on Jun 9, 2006

if we were serious about wanting to switch then obviously I'd spend a little more time on formatting it correctly.. the main motivater for me would be this: http://elothtes.elwiki.com/index.php/Special:Specialpages

Tim said

at 8:59 pm on Jun 9, 2006

on top of that, pbwiki can't show revisions for pages that have been edited a bunch of times and the broken link coloring is broken on IE and the css for this pbwiki is 500k so you can't really browse the site on a mobile device. I'm sure eventually pbwiki will fix these things...

Tim said

at 8:59 pm on Jun 9, 2006

just wanted to get a feel if anybody else had a wiki preference

Tim said

at 9:01 pm on Jun 9, 2006

as for the spells/gears.. same reason why there isn't a "familiar list" on the front page.. part of what makes eloth:tes unique are the unique things that it brings to the table.

Jake said

at 4:16 pm on Jun 10, 2006

I've always thought that a familiar list is a list we all know.

TychoCelchuuu said

at 7:56 pm on Jun 10, 2006

Groan.

Jake said

at 12:23 am on Jun 16, 2006

Ok, terrible jokes apart:
As I have learned recently, you don't have to be able to draw to create a webcomic. In fact, you don't even have to be funny. Or deep. Or anything at all. I'm going to try my best as humor... Ok, yadda yadda yadda.
After the exams end, I'm going to make a roguelike webcomic. With '@' as a main character. And probably set in Battal. Fun or not?

Tim said

at 12:26 am on Jun 16, 2006

@ = fun
a rogue game set in battal = Elebdenam!

Jake said

at 1:04 am on Jun 16, 2006

You mean Elemengband?

Jake said

at 8:32 pm on Jun 16, 2006

Oh, and drop by at http://kungfoorooster.pbwiki.com/ I always liked the show.

Tim said

at 8:49 pm on Jun 16, 2006

elebdenam is the word that jerry holkins made up at e3 when he signed my elemenstor book and said that it was a "word of jubilation" from the series.. I've been doing my best to propagate it into the wiki

Anonymous said

at 12:30 am on Jun 17, 2006

that sounds like crimethink.

Anonymous said

at 3:55 pm on Jun 17, 2006

more work to try to balance the length of the left and right columns, a continuing struggle.. moved wizbits extreme and the movies. Trying to get the front page to mostly contain links to category pages and info that is *very important* in order understand the overall franchise

Anonymous said

at 5:33 am on Jul 3, 2006

Hey i just noticed that they've allowed people like me to change the names of things(when did this happen?). So is it reasonable to do some spelling fairy-ing with names and such? This is of course also assuming responsibility for the correction of the resulting broken links.

Anonymous said

at 1:28 pm on Jul 3, 2006

nice.. go for it

Anonymous said

at 10:41 pm on Jul 14, 2006

Nice wiki u got here... drop by at mine and comment on mine at http://www.footballingfrenzy.pbwiki.com. Cheers!

Anonymous said

at 10:46 pm on Jul 14, 2006

footballingfrenzy.pbwiki.com brill page

James

Anonymous said

at 9:01 am on Jul 15, 2006

Anonymous said

at 3:40 pm on Jul 27, 2006

What exactly is this _IT_ that we have been ordered to suck? Further deliberation on this matter would be excellent.

Tim said

at 5:25 pm on Jul 27, 2006

I think it would be tragic/hilarious if it really was Jerry Holkins that kept intermittantly sabotaging the frontpage

Anonymous said

at 10:56 pm on Jul 27, 2006

I would also find that hilarious. Although, the only reason I could think that he would have for sabotaging it would be if he had a bad day or something, and suddenly decided to destroy something which he started...

I wonder if asking him would be prudent/fruitful?

Anonymous said

at 6:54 am on Aug 1, 2006

Managed to scan a classic ELotH:TES logo from the early roleplaying games and added it to the top of the home page. (Was sick of seeing that fan-art banner.)
Is it cool to use the classic one, or should I scan some more updated logos?

Anonymous said

at 3:16 pm on Aug 1, 2006

yeah.. good to finally start using some of the official logos.. I've always like the classic one (the new one always seemed more sci-fi to me)..

mattrundle said

at 5:01 pm on Aug 1, 2006

Man, I've never even seen that logo before. That's wicked awesome, Nick.

Anonymous said

at 7:15 pm on Aug 1, 2006

Go for it. Although they start to make me feel nostalgic.

Anonymous said

at 7:18 pm on Sep 22, 2006

testing 1 2 3

Jake said

at 10:10 pm on Sep 22, 2006

Kingdom of loathing joined the circle of tribute for the saga. See:
http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Animated_nightstand_%28dark%29

K said

at 4:28 pm on Sep 30, 2006

Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but an anonymous host keeps putting a huge list of invisible links into the front page. It's happened enough to make me wonder if it's automated...? We've discussed (and rejected) locking the Front Page before. Any thoughts on this new and oddly persistent vandalism? It's been from three different IPs now.

Anonymous said

at 8:34 pm on Sep 30, 2006

wow.. that's crazy... I hadn't notice that

Anonymous said

at 9:00 pm on Sep 30, 2006

Apparently it is linking to a site that is intended to foul up spambots, although I'm not sure how valid it is. Anybody know?

K said

at 11:19 pm on Oct 8, 2006

Well it seems to have stopped. The links, though, were to rather a great deal of porn.

Anonymous said

at 10:57 pm on Oct 22, 2006

"Rather great deal"- That's relative, right? I mean, it is the internet.

K said

at 5:14 pm on Oct 23, 2006

Well, you know. Relative to the ELotH:TES wiki, I guess. d^_^b

Anonymous said

at 6:37 pm on Oct 25, 2006

hey.. WTH! No broken link day!?!

Anonymous said

at 7:07 pm on Oct 25, 2006

I forgot we were supposed to have one.

K said

at 1:14 am on Oct 27, 2006

Also, while I've got everyone's attention: two weeks after BLD, on November 14th, is this Wiki's first birthday (see http://www.penny-arcade.com/2005/11/14). We should do something special...

Anonymous said

at 6:31 pm on Oct 27, 2006

That is definitely a good idea.

Anonymous said

at 3:47 am on Oct 28, 2006

...........woooah, we've been around that long? Sweet.

Anonymous said

at 2:50 am on Oct 31, 2006

the day after that is the big release of the 10th anniversary edition of Book 1

Anonymous said

at 7:37 pm on Oct 31, 2006

True, I need to get that when it comes out. Apparently they re-edited it based on the original manuscript, as opposed to the 5th anniversary edition. That thing was a travesty.

Anonymous said

at 1:32 am on Nov 2, 2006

Me want, me want. Aaaah, but the line at the bookstore was sooooo long. I should have pre-ordered it.

Anonymous said

at 7:46 pm on Nov 7, 2006

So what are we doing for the 1 year birthday of the wiki? Its only in a week.

Anonymous said

at 8:22 pm on Nov 10, 2006

its.. like.. tomorrow, right?

Anonymous said

at 8:24 pm on Nov 10, 2006

Its on the 14th apparently which is next Tuesday.

K said

at 7:15 pm on Nov 13, 2006

NOW it's tomorrow. I still haven't any bright ideas what we should do though. Seems like the only real celebration we do around here is BLD's, and we just had one of those. Maybe we all just agree to raise a glass to ELotH:TES at a given point. Seems too small a gesture, really, but...

Anonymous said

at 7:42 pm on Nov 13, 2006

Truly to small of a gesture for such an epic wiki and cycle. I don't have any bright ideas either though.

K said

at 5:56 pm on Nov 14, 2006

/me sings "Happy Birthday" to the Wiki

Anonymous said

at 7:31 pm on Nov 14, 2006

Hooray for everyone who contributed, and for everyone who read stuff that was contributed, and for all the search engine bots that make it look like lots of people read stuff that was contributed!

Anonymous said

at 7:31 pm on Nov 14, 2006

Oh, and is continuing to contribute. Not dead yet!

Anonymous said

at 7:40 pm on Nov 14, 2006

Happy Birthday to the most epic of Wikis!

Anonymous said

at 9:38 pm on Nov 17, 2006

Huzzah for everyone!

K said

at 8:39 pm on Nov 28, 2006

Excellent, Mindless Automaton has returned. Thanks Tim. d^_^b

Anonymous said

at 9:43 pm on Nov 28, 2006

yep :)

Anonymous said

at 10:25 pm on Nov 28, 2006

Thanks alot.

Anonymous said

at 4:50 am on Dec 7, 2006

Hey, would there be any way to write a script to randomize the quote on this page to display random ones from the Quotable Quotes page?

K said

at 6:28 pm on Dec 7, 2006

I don't see why not (probably the Mindless Automaton could do it) but I'm not a programmer. Tim, thoughts?

Anonymous said

at 2:49 am on Dec 8, 2006

should be possible.. I'll look into it...

Anonymous said

at 8:43 pm on Dec 8, 2006

Figure I would start the sign up for BLD as it is in 2 weeks.

Anonymous said

at 7:03 am on Dec 26, 2006

Are the page view number accurate? I can't belive that they are, especially for pages I know I've visited several times on multiple computers but which claim to have been visited 1 or 2 times.

Anonymous said

at 10:24 pm on Dec 26, 2006

Yeah, I've been suspect of that too.

Anonymous said

at 7:37 pm on Jan 9, 2007

I think the Automaton died again.

Anonymous said

at 4:08 am on Jan 10, 2007

I'll look into it

Anonymous said

at 8:03 pm on Jan 16, 2007

Sorry to be a pest but the Automaton appears to still be down.

K said

at 6:01 pm on Jan 17, 2007

Looks like everything is back. Thanks PBWiki guys.

As for the automaton, is this something someone could take over running, Tim? I don't know much about it, but if it's simple I would be happy to run the bot myself.

Anonymous said

at 6:08 pm on Jan 17, 2007

The automaton is a perl script that is on a machine that is currently packed and moving to California. When that machine arrives at its destination, it should once again resume its duties.

K said

at 6:10 pm on Jan 17, 2007

Ah! Well, excellent then. d^_^b

Anonymous said

at 6:10 pm on Jan 17, 2007

download http://elothtes.pbwiki.com/f/blt.zip and the wiki backup zip and you should be able to generate broken links/most wanted

Anonymous said

at 7:35 pm on Jan 17, 2007

Cool. Thanks.

Anonymous said

at 6:01 pm on Jan 18, 2007

Are we allowed to call dibs on pages?

K said

at 6:30 pm on Jan 18, 2007

I'm not totally sure what you mean, but it is common practice to note "I will be back to finish this later..." on a page. Of course, some pages sit like that for a LONG time (see MooMaa, for instance) so it's not 100% guarantee, but it can't hurt to note that you'll be back to do a particular page later.

Anonymous said

at 6:34 pm on Jan 18, 2007

Okay, sounds good.

Anonymous said

at 12:17 am on Jan 28, 2007

There's been some trouble recently with pages like ELotH:TES Movies and some TCG expansions thinking they're URLs instead of intrawiki links. Can anything be done about that or do we have to move the pages to get rid of the :s?

Anonymous said

at 8:15 pm on Jan 29, 2007

I'm thinking we may have to go through and ditch the :'s in links which is sad because they are important punctuation for ELotH:TES. Obviously its a conspriacy against the free usage of punctuation.

K said

at 7:57 pm on Jan 31, 2007

You guys are complete editing animals. I am amazed at the amount of work getting done lately. Nice job!

Anonymous said

at 8:19 pm on Jan 31, 2007

Well I saw that Zeta had started to work on the Back to and Missing Back to lists and I decided to join in. Hopefully we can get the orphaned pages, mispellings, back to, and missing back tos all cleaned up.

Anonymous said

at 8:15 pm on Feb 6, 2007

As some of you have noticed, pages that have :'s in the link don't work properly anymore. This is because the browser is treating them as a protocol and not as a link. We will need to go through and revise all the pages with :'s in the name (just the link to the page) probably by changing them to -'s or just excising them completely. Please refrain from using :'s in your links. If a person has time they could design a script to go through and look for :'s and change them to -'s for the links, that would be a huge help.

K said

at 10:46 pm on Feb 6, 2007

Okay, it looks like what is broken is anything with a : in the *first word* of the link. On the front page, note that "ELotH:TES Movies" is broken, but "Other ELotH:TES Animation" is not. Similarly the ElamenSTAR "Final Battle:" episodes are all working fine. I've dropped a note on the "bugs" forum.

K said

at 4:34 am on Feb 7, 2007

Okay, there's no need to revise the pages with : in the name. PBWiki staff is on it: "Thank you for reporting the issue. We will try to get this resolved this week or next. We've assigned an internal ID number of 227 to this bug." So all shall be well, soon enough. d^_^b

Anonymous said

at 8:04 pm on Feb 7, 2007

Okay, sounds good.

Anonymous said

at 6:51 pm on Mar 15, 2007

Tim, or somebody who can run the code for the Mindless Automaton, if you aren't busy can you start up the MA? Thanks.

K said

at 7:20 pm on Mar 15, 2007

At the moment, backup.php doesn't work. So there's no way to download the .zip file that MA (or the standalone code) uses. For all I know, MA is working fine and just can't get the .zip. I've filed a bug report, but so far there hasn't been a reply.

Anonymous said

at 7:31 pm on Mar 15, 2007

I see. I wasn't aware of that.

Anonymous said

at 10:28 am on Mar 20, 2007

I've noticed that some of the older pages have fallen out of memory, with some particularly obvious, nonfunny typos. Though it likely to be a terrible idea, perhaps a Spelling Fairie day should be instituted?

Anonymous said

at 6:38 pm on Mar 20, 2007

I've been spell and grammar checking when I run into stuff. Do you have any pages/series of pages in particular that need it? I do agree alot of the older pages have been neglected. We probably ought to do a STUB day and start fixing stubs, then for the next BLD we can go through and look at old articles and see what Broken Links haven't been filled in yet.

Anonymous said

at 11:00 pm on Mar 20, 2007

No particular pages come to mind, but stuff inetably pops up.were not professionals after all.it just seems like general spelling and grammar checking has died down catastrofically.

K said

at 5:27 pm on Mar 27, 2007

Backup zip downloading has been fixed. However I haven't been able to get the BLT to work, and blt.zip is corrupted or something... Tim, you still around? Any thoughts?

Anonymous said

at 8:18 pm on Mar 27, 2007

I'll take a look

Anonymous said

at 9:34 pm on Mar 27, 2007

archive file format has changed.. looking into required fixes

K said

at 6:17 pm on Mar 28, 2007

Sweet, thanks. I am as ever in awe of your 1337 programming skills.

Anonymous said

at 6:38 pm on Mar 28, 2007

Big thanks to both of you for sorting this out.

Anonymous said

at 10:08 pm on Mar 28, 2007

blt_fixed2.zip seems to work now.. I posted most wanted.. the data is not quite as clean as what is spit out by the MA because the files with special characters in them show up as broken links.. other than that, it seems to work.

K said

at 1:11 am on Apr 9, 2007

Okay, they moved awfully fast so it looks like they're not bots, they're people who are obsessed with spamming the wiki. The locks are temporary until we can figure out a good way to address this while keeping the wiki open for edits. Suggestions?

Anonymous said

at 3:17 am on Apr 9, 2007

good solution for now

K said

at 5:47 pm on Apr 9, 2007

Oy. My kingdom for an IP ban.

Anonymous said

at 6:37 pm on Apr 9, 2007

Yeah no kidding.

Anonymous said

at 6:59 pm on Apr 9, 2007

I tracerted him. It looks like the IP may be in Poland.

K said

at 8:33 pm on Apr 9, 2007

Hey Tim, do you know anything about IP blocking? It looks in the settings like that has to be purchased, but since this entire wiki exists at the pleasure of "Tycho's" bank account, I'm not sure how to address that. This has gone well beyond easily-patched vandalism. A long, LONG time ago there was some discussion of moving the wiki... I don't know. But this is becoming a real problem.

Anonymous said

at 6:37 pm on Apr 10, 2007

Hmm...it seems to have stopped. *crosses fingers*

Anonymous said

at 4:00 am on Apr 13, 2007

Hmmm.. I don't know anything about IP blocking.. there is still the elothtes.elwiki.com if we wanted to move I could spend a little more time making sure that everything transferred across seemlessly.. but it appears that the vandalism has subsided..

Anonymous said

at 7:16 pm on Apr 18, 2007

So does any one know what happened to the pictures? They don't seem to be working.

Anonymous said

at 10:03 pm on Apr 18, 2007

Nevermind. It was just the machine I was on.

K said

at 6:32 am on Apr 29, 2007

What do we think about adding the C&C3 comic to the comic resources? It doesn't reference ELotH directly, but those file boxes... Book 14 is probably in there somewhere. Thoughts?

Anonymous said

at 6:41 pm on Apr 30, 2007

Well it does show that Tycho Brahe is working on other books/sources of revenue but also it shows the wealth of writing that he has done for ELotH. Perhaps Book 14 is in there or perhaps it is some other work yet to be published by him.

Tim said

at 12:31 am on Jul 14, 2007

tried out putting the chat on the front page too see what happens

Tim said

at 1:12 am on Jul 14, 2007

K said

at 8:30 pm on Jul 14, 2007

That's freaking awesome. Though if I was a member of that forum I'd point out to Coinspinner that the wiki is far from empty now...

Anonymous said

at 12:37 am on Jul 15, 2007

Nice. Not bad.

Anonymous said

at 5:45 am on Oct 5, 2007

Am I just imagining a crossover episode involving this show and Wizbits or what? They seem like sort of similar shows and I'm wondering if there was any overlap in the production staff, but I can't find many fansites about it:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.AvatarAndTheAirbendingFellowshipOfVampireSlayers

Anonymous said

at 6:44 pm on Oct 5, 2007

No, I think you may be right. I can't remember the episode name though.

Anonymous said

at 11:07 pm on Oct 5, 2007

I think that the wizbits needs an entry on that wiki.. definately a great example of "Adaptation Decay"

Anonymous said

at 6:53 pm on Oct 8, 2007

Excellent. Perhaps the other Elemenstor Animations also deserve a page on there.

Anonymous said

at 9:10 pm on Oct 31, 2007

Is it just me, or is the search function totally not working in any way?

Anonymous said

at 9:21 pm on Oct 31, 2007

ok.. I put a google search on the sidebar.. it won't be up to date with the latest, but it seem like it'd be much nicer than having no search at all

Anonymous said

at 3:36 am on Nov 1, 2007

this pleases me greatly

Jake said

at 8:41 pm on Feb 27, 2008

Hey guys!
Remember me? I used to write all kinds of stuff here some two years ago.

Anyway, I wonder, whether I could use the Elothtes franchise in potraying a character in a story, a geek who is obsessed with the Saga.

For real, would that be legal?

Anonymous said

at 9:00 pm on Feb 27, 2008

hey Jake! I don't think that anybody owns the rights to anything here (at least no claim of ownership has been made).. so I think its all fair game...

K said

at 1:10 am on Feb 28, 2008

I am not a lawyer (yet!) and this is not legal advice, especially since there are no "terms" attached to contributions and the like. But my feeling would be that this entire work is collaborative, and by contributing, you have as much right to it as any of us.

I would be interested to know more about this story you're writing, though! My wife is a writer (debuting with HarperTeen in 2009!) so I'd love to know more about what you're working on.

Anonymous said

at 7:47 pm on Feb 28, 2008

As would I.

Anonymous said

at 11:12 pm on Mar 12, 2008

Anonymous said

at 6:30 pm on Mar 13, 2008

Boo! Obviously this is a conspiracy against ELotH by those Franzies over at wikipedia.

Tim said

at 8:29 pm on Mar 19, 2008

Anonymous said

at 6:45 pm on Mar 20, 2008

Nice.

Anonymous said

at 5:40 am on Mar 22, 2008

Totally venom

Anonymous said

at 8:16 pm on May 26, 2008

Nice. Good idea on the Facebook group.

Tim said

at 6:34 pm on Jul 11, 2008

perhaps its time to lock this page again

Anonymous said

at 8:40 pm on Jul 11, 2008

Yeah, that's probably a wise move.

Tim said

at 2:11 am on Jul 12, 2008

locked... on an unrelated note... I've built a web site where I'm going to run the elothtes phalla...

http://phalla.somee.com/games.asp

anyone is welcome to help test the site if they so desire. thanks!

Tim said

at 11:30 pm on Jul 17, 2008

http://phalla.somee.com/gamedisplay.asp?g=31 -- sign up if you're interested... I'll post again here when the game is going to start

Tim said

at 2:29 am on Jul 23, 2008

http://phalla.somee.com/gamedisplay.asp?g=31 -- this starts tomorrow -- already has generated some humor ;)

Anonymous said

at 6:42 pm on Aug 12, 2008

We need to update the front page for the upcoming Broken Link Day.

Tim said

at 6:42 pm on Aug 13, 2008

hey bfg00, have you ever created a pbwiki account?

Anonymous said

at 7:19 pm on Aug 13, 2008

I have not but I can.

bfg00 said

at 7:26 pm on Aug 13, 2008

Okay, I have one now.

Tim said

at 10:25 pm on Aug 13, 2008

ok.. no budget for punch and pie or balloons for the ceremony, but welcome to the council. DING! bgf00 is now a site administrator.

Tim said

at 10:25 pm on Aug 13, 2008

For those of you playing along at home: a careful reading of Book 9 will reveal that I invoked the bell of decisiveness there.

bfg00 said

at 10:41 pm on Aug 13, 2008

Well obviously. Although I would have eaten The Decisive Omelette, personally. Thanks for the promotion!

bfg00 said

at 6:42 pm on Oct 9, 2008

It seems that all the pages that contain an apostrophe in their title are now considered broken even though most of them aren't (look for the RPG Player's Handbook for instance). Is this some scheme by some devious mind to suppress Brahe's seminal use of punctuation or just an error in pbwiki?

Tim said

at 9:29 pm on Oct 9, 2008

haha.. I think it was just a temporary hiccup, because running mindless again seems to have resolved the issue

bfg00 said

at 6:41 pm on Oct 17, 2008

We going to convert his page to pbwiki2.0?

Tim said

at 8:03 pm on Oct 20, 2008

I don't think that pbwiki 2.0 is quite ready to handle a wiki of this size...

if you want to try out a 2.0 version of this wiki that I created.. feel free to motor over to here..

http://centuryoffire.pbwiki.com/FrontPage

bfg00 said

at 8:23 pm on Oct 21, 2008

Yeah, I can see what you mean. Is there anyway to customize the layout?

Tim said

at 9:29 pm on Oct 21, 2008

there are apparently some javascript gizmos that you can use to change around the layout, but they aren't officially supported...

also... if you want to edit the wiki, you need to sign up for a pbwiki account which means that casual users may shy away.

bfg00 said

at 6:39 pm on Oct 22, 2008

That's annoying. Is there anyway to turn that off?

Tim said

at 7:16 pm on Oct 22, 2008

nope... I think that's the real deal breaker for us right now..

bfg00 said

at 7:33 pm on Nov 17, 2008

Looks like they disabled the lock feature. That or I just can't find it.

Tim said

at 10:24 pm on Nov 19, 2008

actually... it looks like we're not a premium wiki anymore.. guess tycho has decided to stop paying for us.

bfg00 said

at 7:31 pm on Nov 20, 2008

Well damn.

Tim said

at 11:08 pm on Mar 2, 2009

holy cow! pbwiki 2.0, here we come!

K said

at 5:33 am on Mar 4, 2009

Well this... is painful to look at. Hmm.

bfg00 said

at 6:33 pm on Mar 9, 2009

Yeah, I know. Sadly I had no choice but to upgrade 2.0 as they were going to force us anyways.

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